Kansas state Secretary of State and leader of the White House “voter fraud” commission Kris Kobach said on Wednesday that he can’t be sure if Hillary Clinton truly won the popular vote or if President Donald Trump won the election.
Asked by NBC News reporter Katy Tur if Clinton really “won the popular vote by three-to-five million votes,” Kobach wouldn’t answer definitively.
“We may never know the answer to that,” he said, as Tur expressed visible surprise. Kobach’s rationale is that even if a certain number of votes are discovered to have been ineligible, “we still wouldn’t know how they voted.”
Later, when Tur asked if the “votes for Donald Trump…in doubt as well,” Kobach answered “Absolutely.”
Tur also asked if this commission was formed to “validate” the baseless, surely false claim by President Trump that he actually won the popular vote “if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”
Kobach dismissed that as the reason, saying his goal was to “look at the facts as they are” and to “go where the facts lead” in their investigation. (Of course, as we reported on Monday, an email from the Kansas secretary shows his goal is to make voting more difficult in every state like he has in his own).
However, earlier on CNN (video below), Kobach seemed less uncertain about implying that Clinton did not in fact win the popular vote when asked to defend his statement that “the number of illegal votes cast [in 2016] exceeds the popular vote margin” between the Democratic and Republican candidates.
Yet, in order to defend what is essentially a ploy by the GOP to play games with voting access to maintain their electoral supremacy, Kobach and his ilk are creating mass hysteria about fraudulent votes in order to allow them the political cover to create this commission and pass laws that disenfranchise voters.
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